There are whole books on the subject about building a great design that is scalable and portable among developers and or administrators.
Then there are whole books on the subject of capacity and scalability for the database layer.
Then there are novels from developers that in many cases really don't know the tricks of the DBMS they are working with, and create elaborate abstraction layers that automatically generate SQL for the DB in question from objects and such.
But, with all these people who tell you how to do it, actually can they prove that it works under a constant high workload for many people all at the same time.
I can boast this. Flickr does over 4 BILLION+ queries per day, 2 BILLION of which are SELECTS. Most of our data is REAL TIME queries from the database layer. We don't do any fancy tricks to dedicate resources to API calls to certain servers; they hit the SAME servers that the Flickr Users do.
You may be thinking to yourself yea right say you can do 20K + transactions per seconds that must be a crap load of expensive hardware all running, where all the data is served out of memory. Nope we run our stuff on RHEL-4.0 with mySQL version 4.1.20-flickr (my little special tweaks for x86_64) and the data is only 3% HOT (meaning out of the 1 TB of user data less then 3% is in memory).
Still hard to swallow? Let me add a little more info to blow your mind and wipe away all the things that you may have read that can't be done.
All of our database connections are real time. Our load balancer for the database is written in 13 lines of PHP code.
How can this be, how does Flickr scale? How did the Flickr Engineering Team do this (6 people)?
If you’re interested let me know post a comment, and I'll write up the design that I proposed July'ish 2005 to Flickr which we use today. It's able to scale linearly based on a function of users not on content.
Saturday, August 19, 2006
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Yes, I am interested in that.
I've often wondered if the API calls were handled differently, interesting to find they aren't. Guess that's an example of "don't optimize something 'til you have to".
Tom
Spill it please. :-)
You have to be kidding... of COURSE we're interested!
please do let us know your secrets to performance
This is some attempt to see if 200 people will post the same comment? Okay, then...
Please post the details. :-)
+1
Please, do tell.
yes, go for it.
Yes please.
I bought a couple of Cal's book and while it explains a few things that I hadn't considered it doesn't mention much regarding the API.
I'm in. :)
This is one of those things you have to share with the rest of us!
Come on, what's your secret sauce?
Yea, come on, spill it!
Cool, I'll post diagrams, code snippits and a few other things that will make you all go wow, that's it?
Give me about a week though.
Got any jobs going, will work for peanuts (well, not actually nuts, but to get my foot into the MySQL scaleout space, not much). I've got a lot of skills to offer.
Any yes, I'm interested in your design, especially as my backgound is as a Database Modeler.
I'm highly interested in Mysql Scalability and High Availability topics. I would really appreciate if you can publish the relevant documents with complete details. That would help everyone looking for such solutions.
With best regards,
S.Mugunthan
I'm highly interested in Mysql Scalability and High Availability topics. I would really appreciate if you can publish the relevant documents with complete details. That would help everyone looking for such solutions.
With best regards,
S.Mugunthan
I would love to see the load balancing code you did in php.
Of course: Yes please! :o)
Much like Tom's commment of "don't optimize something 'til you have to," I'd be interested to see what has been denormalized versus what hasn't in your schema. Mostly I've found there are very few cases for denormalization, and that joining tables is not as scary as most people think it is.
Hi! I made few comments in my blog, but sure, I'd like to see your design documents! :-)
Color me intrigued.
I would love to read about your design ideas. And if you don't mind will you post a followup comment on this post with a link to thw writeup if/when you do so?
Chalk up another under the "yes please" column.
I want to know!
pleeeeeeese?
+1 interested, give give!
Definitely interested...looking forward to finding out the details!
This is interesting stuff, and I really want to learn more about tweaking MySQL to run at that capacity.
I would love to hear your secret
+1
Yes, I would like to know what you've done. thanks.
Been thinking of hash based balancing across multiple slave servers. (see Cache Array Routing Protocol)
So each mysql service would be only be serving a 1 / N 'th of the data, (where N is number of slaves).
This effectively combines all the mysql's own query caches into a single cache, rather than having N query caches with roughly the same thing.
But definately would be interested in the method flickr has implemented :)
yep - another one interested to see the "Unorthodox approach to database design" details......
+1
Writing the stuff up in my spare time, but with the launch of maps the query load increased by 43%; I will need more time to get this out. It's not a big deal with the system in place, but I need to figure out if we are doing more then necessary queries. So, stayed tune.
I'm interested.
I'm myself doing a lot to make MySQL Scalable, thanks to MySQL its still cheaper and efficient than DBs, yet there are 100s of tricks, that can help you elevate MySQL's perfomance.
me too :)
+1 :)
Definitely looking forward to this. I will take production examples over pseudo any time.
dathan, you may be having one challenging time what with surpassing 1 million geo-tags in a day compared to the expected 1 million a month. And ur DB is still standing. Good stuff.
Waiting on the followup article. Thanks.
Great! I'm really interested. Thanks for your effort.
and theeeeeeeeeennn????
well...what's the holy secret, oh great guru of MySQL?...
Yes, please, I'd be thrilled to read that!
I'm interested, too. Please send me the secret.
odoaker@freemail.hu
I'm curious to know more about your database design which you have been using at Flickr.
I'm interested, we don't have anywhere near the queries and I have some performance issues.
Thanks
I'm interested too, please send me the info to dude30m@hotmail.com
Still nothing???
This is on a bit of a hold.
Have allot of work to get through, and I need to run my blog post past my manager to make sure that I don't step on Yahoo's toes.
Please tell us anything you can. Some of us need to convince those VC types that this isn't all just voodoo. We understand you can't give out trade secrets.
I guess it would cost too much to poach you now ;)
Yes I guess it was too good to be true :( darn managers !
dude30m@hotmail.com
Let's here the magic behind the voodoo.
Did you ever end up sharing this?
Hi,
Could you publish the details that would help me a lot in my work. I would highly appreciate your timely help.
Regards,
S.Mugunthan
I take it this is going nowhere...
Hello all, I'm writing this up now. It will be reviewed by my manager some time next week, so check back soon.
Great!
I'm interested, too...
Start of it here
I am interested too!
Great site, I am bookmarking it!Keep it up!
With the best regards!
David
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